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I'm Audrey. Nice to meet you. I'm an Amian. Here are some points that I wish to make about Evan:
1. Why would the authors add Evan to the story in the first place? If they wanted to create tension between Ian+Amy, they could have just used Jake. They didn't have to add him unless he plays a bigger role in the story than Amy's boyfriend. Think about it! WHY IS HE HERE?
2. Evan is supposed to be a nerd. In TDON, he slippes up and uses incorrect grammar. It is Sinead and I. Evan said: Me and Sinead. So, is he just posing as a nerd? If he was that smart and nerdy and everything, he would have that so stamped into his brain that he would never make that mistake. Right?
3. Evan just popped up in the second series. They didn't even mention him in the first series. We know so little about him, while we know everything about Ian. So what if Ian is in Argentina? If you have read the Rapid-Fire series, you know that the Vespers are targeting Ian as a possible Vesper recruit. There is no way Ian would betray the Cahills like that. Look at his devotion to them in: Into the Gauntlet. We know that Ian always comes through and sticks with them in the end.
Here's another thing: In 'In Too Deep' (book 6) Shep borrows a plane from a 'Mr. Gregory Tolliver.' What does this mean? Is there a connection? Vesper? No?
What do you think? Ian or Evan?
~Audrey
P.S. When you were reading the books, did anyone think that Evan must be cute, then see his picture and be repulsed, like: "Eeeww!"
P.P.S. I'll post my reasons I have for Amy being with Ian next.
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Posted at: 3:49 pm on May 30, 2012
Since I know very little about Jake...No answer.
Evan, oh Evan. Now I think Evan is sweet, nic, and caring. I have nothing against him it's just... I don't think Amy should be with him. I believe Amy is going through a difficult time and I'm not sure Evan knows how that is. Ian does though. I belive in second chances. Ian should start out as friends. So Evan is great as a boyfriend, just not Amy's...boyfriend. Oh great. Hamster on the run!
Gtg!
~Dell~
P.s. If Amy marries a cheesecake in one of the books. I'm gonna cry. Her cheesecake won't last long...
Farewell Ashoka Tano!
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~Dell~
Posted at: 5:03 pm on May 30, 2012
A. Jake has NEVER betrayed her (unlike Ian)
B. Jake is not a suspected Vesper (unlike Evan, whom I really don't like)
C. He is probably being the most honest with Amy and Dan, unlike Evan(vesper) or Ian(backstabbing little...)
D. If Cea-Cea (me) has actually started thinking he is best, then he must be!
Ian would be second best, but Jake is better. But do not get me wrong, it makes no difference to me weather you're Amian, Evamy, or Jamy, we can all be friends.
Cea-Cea
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Posted at: 5:44 pm on May 30, 2012
I think Amy should be with Ian. Also, I do recall thinking Evan was cute when I read about him. But then when I saw his
picture, I was like, "Eewwww...... Somebody get me a doggie bag! I think I'm gonna hurl!"
- Natty out
Blech!
Natty
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Well I like to dance, so if you do, just get on the floor... (fom I like to dance by HCR)
Posted at: 8:47 pm on May 30, 2012
I'm against Amcheescake on the whole. I don't even like cheescake! And when did she EVER say that she liked cheescake! I'm pretty sure 'cheesecake' isn't her type. :)
I'm glad someone posted... Thanks Dell! :P
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Posted at: 6:26 pm on May 31, 2012
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I don't mind if anyone comments. I LOVE debating. It's fun. I could be a lawyer. Heehee.
- Melissa
Melissa
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Posted at: 10:25 pm on May 31, 2012
I'm campaigning Amian and Jamy:
Amian because:
Ian tried to destroy the serum in the gauntlet.
He and Amy kissed in Korea!!!
In Book 7,you get a description of what Ian thinks of her. Its good.
On one card,it's talking about Natlie,and it says"When her brother develops an unexpected crush,I forget the rest of this sentence." It didn't say the forgetting thing though.
Jamy:
Evan OBVIOUSLY dislikes him,which makes him good in my book.
Amy kissed him in TDON.
Jake is HOT in the words of Amy. At least I think she said that.
He definetly isn't a Vesper,because then Atticus would be a Vesper,and he isn't because the poor dude got kidnapped.
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Posted at: 6:10 am on June 1, 2012
I do understand that Ian has betrayed her.............and that he's hurt her.................
But, the reason Jake hasn't betrayed her is because.............well, HE'S NOT LIKE IAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Each of the boys are different. Each have their goods and bads.
In my opinion.....LET'S JUST LEAVE IT TO AMY!!!!!!!!!! She can decide. :) Also, I'm not saying people shouldn't write stories about it or anything, just that we shouldn't be ticked off when the authors do something we may not like.
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Posted at: 10:01 am on June 1, 2012
I would like to comment on your points :)
A. Jake has NEVER betrayed her (unlike Ian) *Ian was under the influence of Isabel *shudders* he betrayed her because she told him too. He obeyed because his mother is evil.
B. Jake is not a suspected Vesper (unlike Evan) *You are right. In the Rapid-Fire series we also learned that Ian was being targeted as a possible Vesper recruit.
C. He is probably being the most honest with Amy and Dan unlike Evan (vesper) or Ian (backstabbing little...) *I know he is currently being the most honest... Probably because he is the one they talk to face-to-face. Less chance that someone would lie. And again. Ian backstabbed because Isabel made him. :D
D. If Cea-Cea has actually started thinking he is the best, then he must be! *No comment.
Cea-Cea, It doesn't matter to me as well. I really couldn't care less. But, I still think IAN!!! is the best for Amy.
P.S. Add my card! I need such a caring person as my ally! (I added yours!)
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Posted at: 1:39 pm on June 1, 2012
It is those moments when I think, "Is it too hard to find a cuter actor to pose for a picture?"
(Blech) :)
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Posted at: 1:42 pm on June 1, 2012
I'm glad to see you on here! Congratulations on being the first Evamy to post! :P
I think you have some very good points concerning Evan and Ian, but there are a few things that I feel compelled to comment on.
Evan:
1. He is not a vesper definitely. How do you know? Does the books ever say anything about him being or not being a vesper?
2. He has not, nor will, double cross Amy. Well, I know quite a few people who have been double crossed, and whose to say that he won't?
3. He treats her like the most important girl in the world. Uuhh yeah, but I could do the same thing. It's called ACTING and getting the INFO he needs.
4. Hes putting himself in danger for her. Just like everyone else.
5. Amy actually likes him. As of book 3 of the new series, she actually doesn't seem to care. She kissed Jake right in front of him!
6. He's lieing to his family and friends to help Amy and her brother. A lot of VESPERS lie. What do you have to say about that?
7. He happens to be the only one in the comm. who doesnt have a hostage. Yeah, which makes him a perfect canidate to be a Vesper. Everyone else they have to threaten, but Evan, (or so the Vespers think) they don't need to threaten. Ho hum..
8. He gets along with Saladin. So what? No big deal! Allergies anyone?
9. As Amy puts it, he's adorkable. I really don't approve her choice of boyfriends. He isn't even cute! I mean, REALLY? What does that have to do with anything anyways?
And think of Ian's mother? How many lies did that woman feed him? It takes time to break habits. I mean, really!!!
~Audrey.
P.S. I'm not trying to make sure everyone else is wrong. This is just what I have recived from the books. I'm sticking to the facts.
P.P.S. I am not trying to offend anyone!
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Posted at: 1:48 pm on June 1, 2012
It's good to see you here!! Welcome to the discussion! I'm commenting on your comments!! :P
Amian because:
Ian tried to destroy the serum in the gauntlet.
*Go Ian!
He and Amy kissed in Korea!!!
*Halfway, sorta, kind of. Not really. I don't know. I wasn't there :)
In Book 7,you get a description of what Ian thinks of her. Its good.
*He likes her. Does she like him?
Jamy:
Evan OBVIOUSLY dislikes him,which makes him good in my book. * :)
Amy kissed him in TDON. *On the cheek
Jake is HOT in the words of Amy. At least I think she said that. *Yup. She did.
He definetly isn't a Vesper,because then Atticus would be a Vesper,and he isn't because the poor dude got kidnapped. *That would be a suprise twist if Jake was a Vesper!
If you had to choose one, who would you choose? Jake or Ian?
~Audrey
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Posted at: 1:52 pm on June 1, 2012
It's good to see you! :) As with the other posts, I feel the great urge to comment.
Of course Jake isn't like Ian! Look at their perspective upbringings! One had a caring mother, and one had a trecherous, slimy, evil person for a mom. Wouldn't that reflect in your personality?
You are right. Each of the boys are different and each with their goods and bads. Faults make us human!
I respect your opinion that we should just leave it to Amy. She is the one going to date the person, not us!! :P But I think that we can try to deciper Jake, Evan, and Ian's actions and from there we can see who would be the best for Amy to date. She is going to end up with one of them, and I don't want it to ruin her life. (Which is already so hard!)
~Audrey
P.S. I love the green quote at the bottom of your sig!!
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Posted at: 1:59 pm on June 1, 2012
Uh, Audrey? 'Natty' isn't short for Nate. It's short for Natalie.
- Natty out
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Posted at: 3:47 pm on June 1, 2012
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Posted at: 7:19 pm on June 1, 2012
Four and nine. I mean, I don't see why everyone thinks he's a vesper!!!!!! I mean, is it possible to like someone without being questioned!!!!! I mean, why does anyone think he is a vesper?!?!?! You think we would know if he was a vesper because in TDON there are some chapters in evan's point of view. Then, he would be thinking thoughts a vesper would have. Notice how he only thinks about Amy?!?!?!?!? He doesn't think anything about being a vesper OR double-crossing Amy. Without all the vesper nonsense, you don't really have anything to hate him about!!!!!!!!
- Melissa
P.S. I am not trying to offend anyone, again!!!!
Melissa
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20% Ekat
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Posted at: 11:59 pm on June 1, 2012
Cea-Cea
Princess Cea-Cea
An author in training
Gallagher Girl
Daughter of Poseidon
Live,Laugh,Love and CAHILLS!!!
Cahills v. Vespers!!!
DREAMS…can come TRUE
WWJD?
This is SO 200 characters!
Posted at: 10:15 am on June 2, 2012
"Don't be afraid. Let's have a little fun instead…" - Rise of the Guardians
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Posted at: 11:26 am on June 2, 2012
The reason i like ian is because he just seems so perfect.
Mary
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" Because he was a fungi!"
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Posted at: 4:13 pm on June 2, 2012
Again, SOOO SORRY!!!
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Posted at: 4:19 pm on June 2, 2012
I'm soo glad you are on here to debate with! You have some really great points regarding Evan and the people that think he is a Vesper.
You are right. We really don't have anything to hate Evan for. And I'm not hating him. I read through my comments (oops) and most of them ARE Vesper related. Whoops. Would you like me to go through them and make different non-Vesper related comments?
Oh, and please call me Audrey! CatchingAqua430 is just too big of a mouthful. :)
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Posted at: 4:23 pm on June 2, 2012
If you've read the story, You obiously know that Ian and Amy is waaaaay not better than Amy and Evan because their love is more forbidden and unexpected.
Which story would you rather read:
Evan wuvs Amy.
Amy wuvs Evan.
They both wuv books and reasearching.
Evan wuvs Amy sooo much he is helping Amy.
Since they wuv each other they get married.
Wuv.
OR
The Orphan tries to get over the Millionare.
Amy thought Ian Kabra loved her, but she was tricked by Ian to get the clue. While tricking her, Ian fell for Amy. Amy is crying, for herself being so stupid and Ian being so mean. Amy and Dan won the clue hunt and got a bunch of $. Isabel disowned Ian. Fiske and Nellie are Amy's guardians. Ian is an orphan. Amy is a millionare. Ian realizes his feelings for Amy now that he isnt under his evil parents control, but Amy already has a boyfriend.
The Orphan tries to get over the millionare.
Yes, The 2nd story is better.
If that doesn't give you enough proof than here's another reason...EVAN IS A VESPER!
Evan Toviller. Toviller. Does that sound like a name you can trust????NO!!!!!!!!!!
Plus, Evan magically becomes Amy's boyfriend when Amy gets the ring.
Thats a coincedence, NOT!
Oh yes, and my theory.
AJT is a Vesper.
Shep is AJT's cousin.
Shep's "friend", the plane driver, had the last name of Toviller and tried to crash them.
Toviller.
Evan Toviller.
Evan=Vesper
Evan could reconize the Vesper Smartphone and SINEAD, an EKAT, couldn't. Recently a fellow student has brought to my attention that Evan helped them by reconizing the smartphone. Well, how?!?!?!?!?! That smartphone is only found in the CSI. the CSI doesn't give their information out like that. She countered with "Maybe his parents are in the CSI". I said to her "And CSI parents would just let Evan work with Amy without any suspision whatsoever?". She gave me a face that looked like this: 0.0.
Oh and Samantha (my friend's name is Samantha), if you pull the "Ian is a Vesper" card on me I have some comebacks!!!
Arguement: Isabel was a Vesper, therefore Ian is one!
Answer: Not nessissarly, 1st of all, Isabel disowned them. 2nd of all AJT is a Vesper and Amy and Dan aren't!
Arguement: How could Ian find Isabel's stronghold, with his Vesper little brain, that's how!!!!
Answer: No, Ian could reconize his mothers nail polish on the Vesper papers, then he went to AWW headquarters.
Oh yes, And in Dead of Night we knew the thoughts of Ian Kabra. If he was a Vesper wouldn't his thoughts be Moi will rule da world! I'm a Vesper!
My friend and I love arguing! ^.^
don’t make me go all isabel kabra on you!
Posted at: 11:43 pm on June 2, 2012
Evan: he's sweet, nice, caring...but he's also a minor character; Amy's feelings for him are slowly slipping away from him and leaning towards:
Jake: they have this "I won't say I'm in love" thing. If you read TDON, page 133 is the biggest piece of proof that you'll ever need :D
...That awkward moment when you have no idea what someone just said...
Posted at: 12:17 am on June 3, 2012
He and Amy kissed in Korea!!! *Yeah; 2 years ago. and it wasn't a kiss. As of March 2012, Jamy is winning.
In Book 7,you get a description of what Ian thinks of her. Its good. *So? It also says in book 7 that Amy's ♥ didn't belong to Ian at all anymore.
On one card,it's talking about Natlie,and it says"When her brother develops an unexpected crush,I forget the rest of this sentence." It didn't say the forgetting thing though. *Let me say something: Ian may have feelings for Amy, but Amy does have feelings for him.
...That awkward moment when you have no idea what someone just said...
Posted at: 12:28 am on June 3, 2012
Series 1: Ian
Series 2: Jake
Sorry Evan fans, but I think he is a Vesper. And please remember this: He posted the lizard picture, right? The message board isn't guarded AT ALL so Vespers can come in and create an account and read the picture and warn the leader. Correct? So please see the wrong side of Evan.
~
Schaelar
“Give a girl the right shoes and she can conquer the world.”
-Marilyn Monroe
Posted at: 12:31 am on June 3, 2012
“Give a girl the right shoes and she can conquer the world.”
-Marilyn Monroe
Posted at: 12:32 am on June 3, 2012
But since you asked… I guess I am an Evamy.
Here are my reasons:
1) What girl doesn't want a boyfriend who loves her, protects her, lies to his family for her, saves her and her brother's life, and gets along with her beloved cat?????
2) Based on the way Amy first decribed him, he seems perfect.
And what girl doesn't want a perfect boyfriend?????
3) He hasn't done anything to hurt her yet.
In AKR, he could've let them die in the library, but he didn't.
4) If a dude gets along with a cat that doesn't really like everybody (cats and dogs are prone to liking good humans, if they're not trained to follow an evil master), the dude's obviously not bad.
5) He has a good sense of humor.
Personally, I think guys with a good sense of humor are the best.
6) In TMP, he stood in front of her and tried to save her life instead of helping the Vespers kidnap Amy and Dan.
If you disagree with me, I don't really care.
I agree with Katelin; let Amy chose who she wants to be with.
It's her decision, not ours.
-Mahin
MahinT♥♫
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I’ll never forget you Harper.
Posted at: 12:57 am on June 3, 2012
I'm a major Amian fan.
Here are my reasons why I hate Evan:
1) What the heck are coke bottle glasses? He looks really stupid.
2) AMY SHOULD BE WITH IAN! HE GETS IN THE WAY OF AMIAN!
3) He insulted Ian. "Snooty Accent" Yeah, right. Ian is the one with the snooty accent. The sound of Evan's voice makes me want to puke.
4) He is a stalker! He tried to break into Amy's house because she wouldn't call him! Are you KIDDING me? Obsessive much?
5) He is A VESPER SPY!
His favorite movie is High School Musical 2! ..................................... I have no idea what to say on that one. I don't think a 16 year old guy would like HSM2.
He just seems so suspicious. I mean- standing outside Amy's house looking through the gate seeing if she's there? When she tells you she will be gone for awhile you still go to the house and try to break in to see if she's there? No way, I'm not buying that. It just seems so creepy and clingy that it can't be true.
Plus, how could he know about a top secret government phone that not even Sinead knows about? And when he was going to call the police? Maybe he wants to get them in trouble to screw up their mission. And why would a dorky, clueless boyfriend enter the Cahill world so willingly when he knows nothing about it and says he wants to protect his girlfriend? Again- really? I'm not buying that.
He doesn't know anything about the Cahills. He is a liability. He can't go around putting top secret info on the message boards. And why is he so quick to excuse Ian of being a bad guy? Hmm......
There. My rant is over.
"I would've thought you would have given me the benefit of the doubt," "After all, we do have a considerable history together." -Ian, TNO
Posted at: 1:06 am on June 3, 2012
I think Amian slightly more. And maybe he isn't a Vesper NOW,but in the next book or something he'll become one.
AMIAN AND JAMY ROCKS!!
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Posted at: 9:24 am on June 3, 2012
WELL,I THOGHT OF SOMTHING NEW.DAN+SINEAD.DO YOU LIKE?
1.Evan and Jake ,either can be associated with vespers.
2.Evan is a nerd and i don't like nerds. Jake is a jerk .
3. I am with CatchingAqua430 or Audrey cause Audrey has 3 awesome reasons.
Peeta –“You love me. Real or not real?”
Katniss –“Real.”
Posted at: 11:16 am on June 3, 2012
B. Not a suspected Vesper.( Evan)
C.Most honest with Dan and Amy. ( Ian and Evan)
But Ian is the 2 best.
Amian because
1.Jake said Cahills are thieves and liars.I think,not sure
2.Evan is a possible Vesper.
3.If Evan is a Vesper,he's not being honest.
Heather
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And Angela, her alter ego
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Posted at: 3:14 pm on June 3, 2012
Ian would be second though
HANNAH
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,
Posted at: 4:06 pm on June 3, 2012
- Melissa
Melissa
50% JANUS
15% Tomas
15% Lucian
20% Ekat
Madrigal CIC!!!
Ginger
Proud Christian
http://www.the39clues.com/messageboard/show/22362/
I love mental giraffes!!!!!
Posted at: 4:21 pm on June 3, 2012
Princess Cea-Cea
An author in training
Gallagher Girl
Daughter of Poseidon
Live,Laugh,Love and CAHILLS!!!
Cahills v. Vespers!!!
DREAMS…can come TRUE
WWJD?
This is SO 200 characters!
Posted at: 10:17 am on June 4, 2012
Evan: yeah, he was a suspected vesper. so was Ian and so was Jake. Have you noticed that the suspects aren't vespers?
...That awkward moment when you have no idea what someone just said...
Posted at: 11:52 am on June 4, 2012
eventually...@EmeraldArt145:
Yuup people still like Amian. I am pretty new to the series, only having to wait for the last two books to come out, so yeah.
You have a point on the Jake. I like how you put it "I won't say I'm in love!" That is totally true. We will have to see how the rest of the books play out!
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Posted at: 4:03 pm on June 4, 2012
Life is a song and your ♥ writes the lyrics
Be yourself, the world needs oRiginaLity. ✌☮
Somewhere between you and despair, I fell in love with chocolate
Posted at: 10:20 pm on June 4, 2012