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Here I am going to post all the information I get about FightingCobra225 being CommanderDetective7. I've recently been going through all of their post dates, and take a look part of what I have,

  Mar 1, 2012
                   14
Mar 1, 2012 14:45:08
  45    +1
Mar 1, 2012 14:44:18
  44    +4
Mar 1, 2012 14:40:23
  40    +5
Mar 1, 2012 14:35:46
  35
                   12
Mar 1, 2012 12:42:25
   42    +5
Mar 1, 2012 12:37:13   37    +9
Mar 1, 2012 12:28:25   28    +3
Mar 1, 2012 12:25:31   25  

Feb 29, 2012
                 20
Feb 29, 2012 20:44:32
  44    +14
Feb 29, 2012 20:30:56
  30    +8
Feb 29, 2012 20:22:25
   22    +3
Feb 29, 2012 20:19:34
  19    +4
Feb 29, 2012 20:15:14
  15    +4
Feb 29, 2012 20:11:24
  11
                 15
Feb 29, 2012 15:33:02
  33    +1
Feb 29, 2012 15:32:02
  32    +2
Feb 29, 2012 15:30:55
  30    +8
Feb 29, 2012 15:22:16   22    +7
Feb 29, 2012 15:15:55
  15

Red highlighting = Cobra
Yellow highlighting = Vince
+# = how many minutes that post was from the last one
# after highlighting = what minute it was
Bold letter above certain groups = what hour that group is in
Bolded and underlined date at top = what and month posts were in


I've also seen that from
Jan 24, 2012 12:28:31 - Apr 9, 2012 09:37:56, Vince has only 1/4 of the posts Cobra has made since then. Which means Cobra could have time to post on both, but uses his the most.

And let's not forget the time he claimed that Vince hacked into his account.

Plus they both write the same.

If anybody else has any info please post it here!

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Posted at: 2:07 pm on April 10, 2012

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Linguistics isn't your strong point, is it? Analyzation would tell you that they both have similar dialect, which would confirm that they live in the same part of the USA. The pattern, however, is NOT the same. By this, I mean choice of words, phrases, and sentence construction. So I would say this argument is weak.

I believe FC has posted that they live next door to each other, so if this is true, that would mean that it's logically possible to have two posts responding to each other within the span of a few minutes. That would take care of the time issue.

And I don't think it's that far-fetched that Vince could have hacked into Joe's account, I've done that to my sister before. 

 Because things are the way they are, things will not stay the way they are.

And so, it begins…

Did you hear that?

Hear what?

Exactly…

 

 

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Whoa. Dude. That is creepy. (My evil twin, Carmen, is nodding her head in agreement.) Let me go check a few things and I'll post back here.

-Kelly♥Janus Wolf

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Here's some info I gather quickly (this is, as Mac would say, "grossly incomplete," but I found it in just a few minutes. More investigation will be needed.)
Vince: 6 pages of posts Cobra: 46 pages of posts
On the post about Egypt, Cobra and Vince both posted on the same day (Feb. 15) seven hours and eight minutes apart (the first time). On Feb. 19, they posted thirteen minutes apart.  The next day they posted five miuntes apart. I tried logging out and logging back in while timing it. It took 12.03 seconds. The mods approve posts rather quickly during the week, especially Mondays and Wednesdays. February 20th, the day Cobra and Vince posted five minutes apart, was a Monday.   -Kelly♥Janus Wolf

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You're kinda obsessing over this. But I can't help but believe you. I have actually noticed the same thing, so maybe I'm obsessing too....except I think it would be cool if they were the same person! They're such total opposites!(not so much anymore but...) I think I might make another account just to mess with personalities! This is interesting....

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Wow, that must have been a lot of work!!!

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FightingCobra225 has to be Vince, A.K.A. CommanderDetective7. I know that Vince doesn't like you, so he says your a bad vesper. I'm like, no way! 

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It was kinda obvious. But that's some pretty good proof. I doubt Cobra can talk his way out of 'not being Vince'.

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um..... who is vince? like not his account or ntin, like who is he? so dude in a rp that took it to far? some lunitic, a ..........???????????????

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Posted at: 6:37 pm on April 10, 2012

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Jope claimed he was homeschooled and that Vince went to public school.  He even said he once played a prank on him with one of his classmates by putting a bucket of paint in his locker.
But then, he said 'Since we're both homeschooled...'
He claimed taht Vince's parents pulled him out and started homeschooling him, but then he said they were gonna start cyber-school next year.
That sounds alright, until you remember that Vince is supposed to be 18, so next year, he would most likely be in collage.
I know they're the same person, he just won't admit it because then people would realize that he is really a Vesper :P

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I have. In Vince first day, no one said anything. And in the same day, Joe teld he was dangerous.

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I agree. He must be guilty

  Angry 
 By the way, why does everybody hate vince? Who is he exactly?    What the what? 

 

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Posted at: 7:54 pm on April 10, 2012

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I think it is pretty suspicious........  But for now, we've got to give Cobra and Vince the benifit of the doubt.  It's what's right.

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Thanks to David,

Cobra and Vince both capitalize their thread names.

If you are the leader of any group or organization, remember this: There is always a path that benefits everyone; all you have to do is find it.

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Posted at: 9:16 pm on April 10, 2012

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And on days that Vince doesn't have any posts, Cobra only has a few. So that means he didn't have alot of time on here that day.

If you are the leader of any group or organization, remember this: There is always a path that benefits everyone; all you have to do is find it.

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Posted at: 10:03 pm on April 10, 2012

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Cobra and Vince…  

- Capitalize their thread titles

Example,
Vince:  YO BLACKWOLF COME ON OUT.
Cobra:  YO TOMAS!!!!!!! CONCERNING THE ELECTIONS!!!

If you are the leader of any group or organization, remember this: There is always a path that benefits everyone; all you have to do is find it.

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Posted at: 10:04 pm on April 10, 2012

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Hmm, I'll look into that.
Who's Vince?!? 

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Posted at: 10:30 pm on April 10, 2012

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Vince is some crazy evil Vesper that wants to take over the MB.

If you are the leader of any group or organization, remember this: There is always a path that benefits everyone; all you have to do is find it.

-Jason

Posted at: 10:35 pm on April 10, 2012

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Interesting theory.

 Naom A LUCIAN that wants to be voted for! :D

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Posted at: 10:57 am on April 11, 2012

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I

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 My favorite characters are the Holts.

Lost Holt. Soccer and basketball is my life! And pizza.:P

I can beat you at any sport. :)

 

 

 

Posted at: 11:38 am on April 11, 2012

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I guess you are right... A vesper controlling the AVC? Oh no...

Aaron 

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Lost Holt. Soccer and basketball is my life! And pizza.:P

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I know VInce in real life off the 39 clues, but I have no clue who Joe is off the clue hunt and cvv.

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Posted at: 12:07 pm on April 11, 2012

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Mmm, takes one to know one.

BTW, nice try with the capitalization. There are other people who do the same thing, so your theory isn't as foolproof as you might think it is. You should really stick to ad homineim.   

 Because things are the way they are, things will not stay the way they are.

And so, it begins…

Did you hear that?

Hear what?

Exactly…

 

 

Posted at: 12:43 pm on April 11, 2012

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Jason, Amber, it sounds like you two are fighting... why exactly? :O

Anyway, I just have to say... YOU GUYS REALLY STALK POSTS!!! O_O No, seriously! How do you guys find the time to stalk people's posts like this? : \ The only person I really follow posts on the internet this much is my boyfriend... :O

Apart from that side note, though... I've honestly only seen Vince post once, so I don't really have much to say on the matter. : \ But I've got to say, posting times don't neccesarily support yeah or nah. Like, if I analyze your posts, Jason, and mine, what would I see?

I think the real thing you need to see is if they post on the same threads if you want to determine if they're the same person. Like, if Vince posted on an RP, why would Joe turn around and post on the same RP? It would be a waste of time, IMO... : \

I don't know much about Vince, so I can't really put my two cents in on this... Joe, could you clarify this?


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Hey, everyone, get this. Cobra posted a new thread at 10:19 this morning saying the the AVC now has a "dual meaning" of what it originally was and "Alliance of Vespers and Cahills." I told him I already had soething like that up yesterday, too bad for him. (show/20300). Here's what his post says:

AVC now has a dual meaning. It is now the ANTI-VESPER COALITION and is dedicated to helping defeat the threat of EVIL. Not neccessarily Vespers. As a rule vespers are evil but there are also evil Cahills. We are now purging the evil on both sides. henceforth I am no longer a Cahill but I am not a Vesper either. I am a Lucian. And that is all I am. No more no less. I will serve out my term as councilman and might even run for re-election but I am not going to be a killer. I am not going to kill off people who stand in my way or be nasty to those Vespers that are actually not terrible people. The second meaning of AVC is ALLIANCE of VESPERS and CAHILLS. (check the rules of acronyms it works.) I would like to say that we will be opening our ranks to those CVP approved Vespers that don't murder cahills for pleasure and I will officially invite (CVP approving of course) Madellin, Emily, and Grace to be the first vespers added to this Alliance. I would also like to Invite Ashley to share in this as well. I am still the leader but we will have Vesper commanders as well as cahills to equalize the power and help me make decisions. I would also like to extend a hand to the CVP and invite them to be formal allies of the new AVC. I would also like to extend my hand to the Code cracking society, to join us formally. We can work out pleasentries and chain of command later, I just wanted to get this out their.


See? I belive he read this thread and is "turning over a new leaf" because of this.


-Kelly♥Janus Wolf

PS- Jason, today on the thread about you being a so-called Vesper, he (Cobra) said you need to "stay out of this" and "I am a guy you want on your team" and "No one ever regrets trusting me."

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GUYS LEAVE COBRA ALONE, HE IS NOT VINCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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But I know Vince off the MB but I don't know Joe.

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Singapore. Long story.

 Because things are the way they are, things will not stay the way they are.

And so, it begins…

Did you hear that?

Hear what?

Exactly…

 

 

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HEY! I think there's good proof they are one and the same, but, Jason, HOW DID YOU GET THE INFO FROM ME??? I didn't tell anyone but my friends on COWS that stuff. Eh, you were probably just scanning my posts, cuz  I'm Janus Vice, but still! I posted that, like, January! nyway, I'm not mad. But we do have to give them the benefit of the doubt. But did anyone else notice that Vince never says anything about this, only Cobra? And Vince doesn't go ANYWHERE except RP's. Just sayin'. XD


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Ash, we wer both left back. To set things straight I am NOT VINCE.

Alliance of vespers and Cahills leader. (AVC.)If you would like to join talk to me.

Lucian Co- Vice Leader

 

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And Firedragon didn't consider all the evidence. vince is only on every couple of days..........And some of our posts are hours apart.

Alliance of vespers and Cahills leader. (AVC.)If you would like to join talk to me.

Lucian Co- Vice Leader

 

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JUST STOP!!! JUST JUST STOP!!! Cobra is nice ok? And some people are in the CVP like me. And I am a blood thristy monster? Well... only after having suger. But that's not the point. Cobra is a nice person who is trying to help the Cahills. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean you should go hurt his feelings. We all know you dont agree with it, but some people do. And just because you do, doesnt mean you should make POSTS for THE WORLD TO SEE about things that might not be true!!!

 

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omg, guys, CHILL!!! okay, look, honestly the time people post is sort of irrelevant. it would be almost impossible to post at the EXACT same time.... plus depending on the size of the post (how long it took them to right it) they could have posted minutes from each other, or hours. also, mods have to read the post, aprove it, and have it post. it could take them longer to aprove some posts than other posts... there is also the fact that: there is almost no reason vince and cobra would want to be the same person. honestly, who like arguing against himself? guys, really, think about it. think things through... becuase (and i'm speaking personally here) i would need rock solid evidence (like, maybe a confession FROM BOTH OF THEM) that they are one in the same... or something that could not, no matter how hard you look, have any fault or doubt. Yes i looked at the table... but i mean absolutely no offesne or anything when i say that i don't think that they are the same person. :/ i mean absolutely no offense at all... but i don't exactly believe this. :/ again NO OFFENSE/DISRESPECT/ANYTHINGELSE!!! good luck to all, and happy hunting!!

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That's alot of info, but we'll never be sure. Unless he confirms it.

If you get between us and a clue, we'll dispose of you in a colorful way!

Proud Christian, Singer, Janus, Firebender, & Writer.

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Hey, here's an idea. Look at his medals and everything. He wouldn't want to spend money for clues on a different account!!!! And I would like his code please so I can investigate!!! Go gettum!!

 

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COBRA IS NOT VINCE!

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Joe, with those 2 posts, you practically confirmed it.

That's rubbish, rubbish! Where's the green frog?

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*shakes head* You're all crazy.

 Because things are the way they are, things will not stay the way they are.

And so, it begins…

Did you hear that?

Hear what?

Exactly…

 

 

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         Cobra is not VINCE

Pedro

Proud Vesper

 

If you truly love her,than you won't let her go

 

Posted at: 5:49 pm on April 12, 2012

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